In a recent episode of the Dr. Drew show, a panel convened to discuss the recent decision by ESPN to give Bruce (AKA Caitlyn) Jenner the Arthur Ashe Award for Bravery simply because Jenner decided to become a transgender person. The sole conservative on the panel was Bretibart’s Ben Shapiro who brought a sudden and tense confrontation to the show when he dared to say that Jenner is still very much a man.
Ben Shapiro: Why are we mainstreaming delusion?
Samantha Schacher: Why would you call it a delusion?
Ben Shapiro: Because, Bruce — Caitlyn Jenner, I’ll call him Caitlyn Jenner because that’s what–
Samantha Schacher: No, it’s her, you’re not being polite to the pronouns, it’s disrespectful.
Ben Shapiro: Okay, forget about the disrespect, facts don’t care about your feelings. It, turns out that every chromosome, every cell in Caitlyn Jenner’s body, is male, with the exception of some of his sperm cells. … It turns out that he still has all of his male appendages. How he feels on the inside is irrelevant to the question of his biological self.
Segun Oduolowu: I don’t agree with that, I am not on that train… She wants to be called she, I’m going to call her she. I just have a problem with the message and the messenger…
Transgender reporter Zoey Tur: We both know chromosomes don’t necessarily mean you’re male or female….You have a thing like Klinefelter’s syndrome. So, [pointing to Shapiro] you don’t know what you’re talking about, you’re not educated on genetics.
Ben Shapiro: What are your genetics, sir?
Dr. Drew Pinsky: I’d stay away from the genetics and back to the brain scans.
Zoey Tur: You cut that out now, or you’ll go home in an ambulance.
Ben Shapiro: That seems mildly inappropriate for a political discussion…
Zoey Tur: You are being rude.
Ben Shapiro: I’m sorry, it’s not rude to say that someone who’s biologically a male is a male.
Zoey Tur: You just called me a “sir.”
Ben Shapiro: Someone who is biologically male is a male… it is not a matter of insulting of inflammatory. It’s a fact. You are a male. Dr. Drew is a male… It’s not a matter of aggressively insulting. … The entire discussion is whether we are embracing mental illness and delusion as a society, that’s the entire discussion.