On Fox News we got a few great opinions from across the conservative spectrum on the religious freedom vs. homosexuality debate. First, radio talk show host and conservative lesbian Tammy Bruce was on Fox & Friends Thursday morning with Tucker Carlson to discuss the way that liberals have shifted toward fascism on the major issues of our day. In particular, in the fight against religious freedom, liberals have turned into bullying fascists!
Tammy Bruce: I say to every other gay person out there, especially young people: For you to turn into what we have been fighting against for generations. My activism began with Act Up, which was gay group dealing with AIDS issues in the 80s.
For me to turn around in the 21st century and see that this is what we were fighting for, so we could condemn people who were different, and with whom we disagree, it is the antithesis of what every civil rights movement was about.
Tucker Carlson: How were you treated as a prominent member of the community, somebody who is identified as gay, and yet you’re taking this position?
Tammy Bruce: It’s the natural position. There is a lot of fear in the gay community, if you do speak up in this regard — and this is our natural position, of course. Because we are effectively whether you’re liberals or libertarian, this is about being able to live lives as we see fit. As minorities; I think when you see a mob operating, there is fear, and you tend to retreat. And we saw this with Chick-fil-a. Everybody came to their defense when they were under attack by fascists, by bullies.
The gay liberals have turned into bullies, when our work is to stop that kind of behavior. I think that if I can serve as an example of being able to give permission in a way or serve as an example saying standing up for our values and what we believe in is what we need to be doing. And to defend, especially those who are under attack like Christians is exactly what our job should be.
On Wednesday night on the O’Reilly Factor, host Bill O’Reilly held an equally thought-provoking discussion with noted libertarian John Stossel. Stossel remarkably made many of the same points that Bruce would the next morning on Fox & Friends, focusing in particular on modern liberalisms trend toward totalitarianism.
Bill O’Reilly: I think you understand where I’m coming from here, is that there is a risk in certain areas of this country…
John Stossel: Of course. But this is the point.
Bill O’Reilly: And maybe a local jurisdiction won’t investigate because they don’t — they succumb to the pressure. So the federal government has to get involved. It’s the same thing on the race issue. So, I mean, I’m going to demand and I think those protections are needed.
John Stossel: Fine. No quarrel. Look, I’m for gay marriage, but I think this movement has moved from tolerance to totalitarianism. The totalitarianism of the left.
Bill O’Reilly: You are absolutely right on that.
John Stossel: No baker should get to stop two people from getting married to anybody they want. They shouldn’t they shouldn’t be forced to bake the cake… This is not about religious rights, this is about individual freedom. You shouldn’t have to prove you’ve got this religion.
John Stossel: Because of America’s history blacks are a special case. Your point was good about exclusivity…
Bill O’Reilly: Let’s get back to totalitarianism imposed by the fanatics. That’s got to be confronted. It has to be.
John Stossel: We should have freedom of information. We ought to have freedom of association in America. The way to fight bigotry. A bigot ought to be allowed to a bigot. The way to fight is it is not to patronize that store.
Bill O’Reilly: A bigot, all right. If you want to be a bigot, you have a right to be a bigot but you don’t have the right to hurt someone in the process.
John Stossel: But not selling them a cake isn’t the same thing.
Bill O’Reilly: Not the same thing. But there has to be legal protections for homosexuals in this country. There has to be.
The honest truth in these two segments is that folks across the social and political spectrum (from Carlson as a conservative, to O’Reilly on the Center-Right to Bruce as a lesbian and Stossel as a gay marriage supporting libertarian) can honestly observe what is happening in politics today and can all see the creeping totalitarianism that is taking hold of today’s American liberal.
They have gone from preaching a gospel of individual liberty to preaching the value of forcing those who disagree to act in accordance with the group ethic. Once upon a time, liberals valued individuality… now they demand conformity. They tell us that we can believe as we wish, but we cannot speak or live out the things we believe! Why? Because it might violate the ‘rights’ of others.
But what about our rights? Our right to freedom of religion, association and speech? Our rights have been subverted because the culture at large says that the things we believe are wrong. Since when did being wrong mean we couldn’t speak our opinion, associate with others who might agree, or worship as we wished?
These are indeed dangerous times for conservatives as the creeping fascism of American liberalism seeks to devour everything in its path.